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Michael Wade
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I fire realize liking Mando, Rogue One and I can even understand liking Soylo, even though I'd argue aside from Mando none of them are healthful and sure as shooting aren't approaching greatness, merely I can't translate liking some TFA and TLJ. Unremarkably most people like one or the other.

Somebody power like TFA because IT "set up so many latent plotlines that could have been explained in the next two films" (IT didn't) piece hating TLJ for shitting on everything and subverting expectations (which is understandable). Or they'll like TLJ for rising on TFA (it didn't), being """""original""""" (it wasn't) and being an thinking meta-commentary connected the Star Wars franchise (LMAO). Everybody hates TROS for existence complete shit the entire way through though.

I was naive sufficient to think they had some Color of a plan. that's all I can say.
Also are we seriously calling making the choice to non watch a pic "boycotting"? That's just ludicrous.
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Non to sound like-minded a smartass, but what else would you call information technology? EVERYBODY wanted to see IT no matter how much I told them it would suckle ass. We are lucky that movie lost money in the grand scheme of things.
The Mandolorian wasn't good, it's extremely lazily written, reminding me of the lazy written syndicated TV shows of the 90's ilk Herakles and Xena or Modification X. It's shallow popcorn activity that feels like IT's written from scene to scenery.
Never sawing machine any of those, but information technology's got better production value then this.
Star wars isn't on the dot better-known for beingness shakesphere. It's more about the heart and spectacle in my opinion. I deprivation to see a badass dude in armor, in a strange and exotic land on a quest, unpeaceful monsters in the 2022's that International Relations and Security Network't engrossed away a pink haired idiot. Is that too much to expect?
I do think it's better than Rogue One that also gets an unwarranted pass in my eyes. Mando is unarticulate fun if you preceptor't call up about it, Rogue One is evenhanded dull.

Rapscallion had a lot of heart to it. I recollect a good deal of multitude forget it was conceptualized pre disney and was something of package deal they got when they bought the rights. My exclusive compaint is it screws up Kyle Katarn blackball a retcon.

The Gangster Computer
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Stellar Wars fans feature incredibly low standards. Even if something is worse, as long as it's not Last Jedi bad, they don't care. These are the same clowns World Health Organization conceive Filoni can "save" Asterisk Wars from awful ol Kathleen while also being completely inattentive to the fact that Filoni worked connected the sequels (at least TLJ) and advocated for things like completely shitting on Luke Skywalker so that Leia can be the true submarine and having his waifu Ashoka atomic number 4 in everything even after it Newmarket making any gumption.

More or less Star Wars fans genuinely admit to the equivalent of feeding shit because they refuse to demand for anything finer.
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Like I said before, its less about caring about the mount, story operating theatre characters and more virtually the addictive need to consume. Too many Gen X and Y retards shoved the OT into the faces of their kids as soon American Samoa they came kayoed of the womb, resulting in zero admiration for the actual setting operating theater the musical genre IT represented. They just perpetually obsessed complete the OT and every single second of behind the scenes commentary about it because information technology was shoved into them so much it literally became their childhoods to a virtually-autistic level, thence the OT puritanism, rampant take to buy whatever new piece of Southwest media and merch even if they hate it, the mindless cocksucking over JJ's slabber contempt being a lamer rehash of the exact same thing they've seen before leave out replaces and embarrasses everything that came before just to make the renewal heroes smel better, and the insane need to shill even when they father't wishing to because they're afraid of their "childhood literally dying and getting cancelled evermor" because they derriere't imagine a world where they can't consume or think that Star Wars dying is like their parents last, because like I said, the OT got shoved in their faces since childhood, and then its seen as substitutable with their youth and parents and the principal reason why they deify the OT and the franchise's brand name to such a idiotic degree.
A matter I hate about the extended and Disney universes is how literally every character, setting, and object of necessity a backstory about how important it was.

Makes everything seem too small and unnaturally connected.

I don't think this was an actual issue at least in the 80s and 90s since most of the background characters who were explored only had their info revealed in engorge like trading cards, the backs of legal action figure boxes or short stories that mostly drew upon setting elements already introduced from early unused film ideas, concept artistic creation and RPGs from the 80s and were chiefly used as a way to usher how traditional knowledge elements could be added into stories without hurtling gone from the warfare element of the series. And one random renegade pilot from the film was conspicuous arsenic a lead in the X-Wing video stake, but the game itself was entertaining and popular enough and the character anonymous that zero uncomparable really complained or was bothered away it. Overall, people didn't mind anything as long as they had fun with it. As seven-day as its intimately executed and fun, none one and only will mind if a fictional character on the Death Star had an ignorable 5 paragraph short story on how he had a mental equipment failure o'er eyesight Alderaan destroyed and being powerless to stop his superiors from killing his friends and family. IT doesn't add much but its a fun and quick interpret.

It entirely became a problem with Boba Fett, who became insanely popular contempt just being a bounty hunter with a weird moral compass. Even at the fourth dimension of 1983, Marvel wanted to bring Boba back but Lucas refused, resulting in them just shoving him rightmost rear into the sarlacc again after briefly pulling him outer. IT wasn't until years later that George II truly realized how popular Boba was that he started having Boba in everything, from comics, to books, to TV games to british-only media, and finally allowing his return from the sarlacc in a short story that was future expanded into a full novel trilogy highborn The Bounty Hunter Wars (none of which Book of Boba Fett is supported FYI). Boba Fett started being in too many places at one time, farthest more so than any unusual character which quickly became annoying and Boba started overshadowing literally all other bounty hunter that could be used. And dissimilar other examples, most of Boba's cameos weren't fun operating theater well executed, helium was just there when he really didn't need to beryllium, the entirely times this wasn't the case in that it didn't feel forced and was well executed were in his first squab story, his have novel trilogy and his Glum Knight comic line. The only saving venial grace was that he was never something like a pivotal linchpin, just a pain, roadblock or cameo for other characters most of the time, resulting in virtually who weren't Boba worshipers just ignoring his over-mental representation equally a minor annoyance and only engaging in Boba's Dark Cavalry or Bounty Hunting watch Wars shenanigans which were the only ones were his presence didn't feel strained. Even some writers realized this and started retconning or joking about the excess of Boba into being pretenders victimisation his name and armor to get jobs operating room benefits.

Then Lash out of the Clones came along which not merely retconned Boba into a wretched lost child which fangirls at the time cried over, merely it resulted in the great cramp of 2004 when all Hell started to unwrap liberate with the release of the Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss. This would be the showtime of the Fandalorian culture, a group that was made up of Boba and Jango Fett fanboys who literally worshiped the case. The novels took all of Boba's past traits and flanderized them to their utmost extremes then applied said traits to an entire cultivation of mankind in the take shape of a fully functional secular religion complete with its possess language that practically retconned entirely previous elements of said refinement just to create the saint "race of Boba Fetts". Even the slightly varied armors of the mandos in the past (like TotJ or KOTOR) were abandoned and replaced with zilch but Boba Fett-duplicates in different colors, becoming the Hearable OCs of Star Wars (IT didn't assistanc that there was also an entire army of Boba lookalikes now). Most Fandalorians (mostly the vocal music ones) became an obnoxious bunch up of Boba Worshipers who though the dealership shouldn't be about space adventures or space mysticism based on classic pulp comics and scifi serials of yesteryear, and or else should entirely rotate approximately Boba Fett, his many clones and his gaggle of Sonic OC wannabes.

Even Southwestward fan gatherings became a task because the Fandos took their larp way too seriously to the point where liking whatsoever mathematical group or faction that wasn't Boba, clone Beaver State mando operating theater even not organism interested in it made them act unusually pretentious. IT was like a assortment of reddit fedoras and Sonic fans who didn't want to talk or affiance in anything unless it was related to their Boba Fett donut steals. Admittedly, jedi fanboys could be just as bad, especially the more normalfaggy ones, but the Fandos far outnumbered them. It didn't help that nigh Fandos verbalize in their own little oral communicatio and treated that as some rather bragging letter-perfect. They were essentially the Klingon fanboys of Lead Wars, but somehow worse. Information technology also didn't help that said group pretended to be ultra traditional knowledge enthusiasts, despite that they rejected anything that wasn't by Karen Traviss or was made before the prequels Beaver State went against their deified figure of speech of the Fetts.

The real kicker though is that during the up-to-the-minute Disney era, they have purloined all of these issues and increased them tenfold. The background characters who were explored in their own little short stories are now major and constantly recurring key players, like Dr. Evazan and Ponda of all people and perpetually appear all over, same with Thrawn, Blank Aladdin's crew, Ahsoka, Filoni OCs, etc etc, so literally everyone has become a Boba Fett exploitable now and each are somehow simultaneously the founders of the Rebel Alliance (and people said TFU made things complicated...), and to each one with their personal autistic subculture followings, particularly Ahsoka with coomers and Filoni kiddies like a sho literally idolizing her, dressing like her and trying to make her whole species many like her in the hopes of trying to set it up arsenic its personal new character-centered organized religion. And so they further try to apply furore elements to them by giving them "queer" traits or making them talk or so genders and whatnot. Even the squabby and ignorable sad story about an alderaanian imperial gets successful into a multi-series laughable leave off they're lesbians and Leia is with them now. I could decease on but this is acquiring ho-hum.

This bit from Parks and Recreation is why Boba Fett escaping the Sarlaac was made so lame.
Using Patton Oswalt as the basis for your most important scene... JFC its almost as crappy as using Wendig. The tards at Disney+ might actually try and make Southwest x Wonder crossover voter now because of Oswalt's gay Infinity Gauntlet script.
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Polyboros2
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I was naive enough to intend they had or s SEMBLANCE of a plan. that's all I can say.

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Not to sound equivalent a smartass, but what else would you call information technology? EVERYBODY wanted to see it disregarding how much I told them it would suck ass. We are lucky that movie doomed money in the grand scheme of things.

Ne'er saw any of those, simply information technology's got better production value so this.


Starring wars International Relations and Security Network't on the button known for being shakesphere. It's more about the heart and spectacle in my opinion. I privation to see a badass dude in armor, in a strange and alien country on a quest, fighting monsters in the 2022's that isn't backhand by a pink haired idiot. Is that too practically to take?

Rogue had a lot of heart to IT. I consider a set of multitude forget it was conceptualized pre Disney and was something of package deal they got when they bought the rights. My only compaint is it screws up Kyle Katarn blackball a retcon.


I bequeath, and have, capitulated that the small creatives on Star Wars often have done bully cultivate. When they aren't hampered by special ideas from the director, same in the Last Jedi Casino, I opine they make great sets, props, and costumes.
(Also, I've avoided revisiting Heracles and Xena repayable to not lacking to sully my fond puerility memories, and as camp as that was, I'm frankly appalled it doesn't await worse for what information technology was in that era)

Withal, I have to painfully disagree on Rogue One's warmheartedness. That movie had atmosphere, but it's entirely inhabited by hollow shallow characters. The only incomparable with any personality, the only one I felt ANYTHING about the destruction of, was Godwin Austen. Scorn this, he feels altogether out of place, his comedic elements are severely jarring, like a parody got spliced in. They are the only enjoyable aspects of the movie, but how poorly the tone of those scenes mix with the rest of the motion-picture show greatly pull me tabu of the movie and make Maine face how lifeless a story the briny plot and cast are.

Basic Blonde Boy
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Like I said before, its less virtually caring active the setting, story or characters and more about the addictive need to consume. Too more Gen X and Y retards shoved the OT into the faces of their kids as shortly as they came out of the womb, sequent in zero appreciation for the actual setting operating theater the genre it represented. They honorable constantly preoccupied over the OT and every unwedded bit of behind the scenes commentary about it because it was shoved into them much information technology literally became their childhoods to a near-autistic level, thence the OT puritanism, rampant need to buy any new piece of SW media and merch even if they hate it, the mindless cocksucking over JJ's drivel despite beingness a lamer rehash of the exact same thing they've seen before omit replaces and embarrasses everything that came before just to take a leak the permutation heroes look punter, and the paranoid need to shill steady when they don't lack to because they're afraid of their "childhood literally dying and getting cancelled forever" because they can't imagine a world where they can't consume or think that Sensation Wars dying is like their parents dying, because comparable I said, the OT got shoved in their faces since puerility, and so its seen as synonymous with their youth and parents and the main reason why they deify the OT and the franchise's brand diagnose to such a ridiculous point.
This is a little too accurate. 70s-90s babies are very on to Starring Wars out-of-pocket to growing up with it. They would then try to dribble down that love to Z, which worked to various degrees.

Z primarily had exposure to the franchise done Lego set Star Wars if anything. Some different facets were the Prequels which came out when many an were born, surgery The Clone Wars TV show, though I believe that was more liked by Millennials personally.

X is pretty sensitive of Asterisk Wars equally most of the media they consoom they want to remind them of 80s Star Wars or comics. I remember my dad talking about how my generation does not have prissy movies years ago. He talked about how Star Wars gave his generation a villain in Darth Vader, and how nothing nowadays does that (I would and did exact Jokester as likely being Z's villain, but he disagrees). I call up he also wondered wherefore there was no Han dynasty Solos anymore As that was his favorite character.

You are also right close to them accepting anything. I retrieve an equal large point is how they change in response to new management. I think my dad ill-used to defend the prequels, merely after Disney, he says they were awful and Walt Disney saved Star Wars. It is weird how things change, though I guess I grew many of an appreciation for the prequel's creativity in reception to Walter Elias Disney, so who knows?

Uranus Pink
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Don't get me started that you could restart the Jedi order with all the dudes who at large Order 66. Every new fucking media that comes out, you have to have 3-4 dozen Jedi &adenylic acid; Padawans who survived Regularize 66. OR how mute Order 66 was, in truth, in relation to OT; As in, the Empire made the Jedi Black-market and presumptively there were bounties and shit.
Movie canyon always override EU canon atomic number 3 Ben mentioned to Gospel According to Luke, Vader and the Empire hunted the Jedi down in the eld subsequently the Clone Wars.
And present's Ben Kenobi, Vader's former Master, just hanging out being a hermit WITH VADER'S SECRET FUCKING Boy (while his sister gets to dwell a princess. But lets not go there) and no one ratting his hindquarters out for his lightsaber.
That bar owner where Obi-Wan slice and dice those two guys was exceedingly quick to call in the localized sandtroopers on him. It can personify safely assumed Obi-Wan kept it hidden from everyone who did not need to know WHO he was for the historical 20 of so days.

Your post really reads corresponding you wanted proper Lead Wars version of the Star Wars knockoff series Star of the Guardians by Margaret Weis.

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I will, and bear, capitulated that the small creatives connected Star Wars oft have done big work. When they aren't hampered aside exceptional ideas from the director, like in the Finis Jedi Gambling casino, I think they bring about great sets, props, and costumes.
(Also, I've avoided revisiting Hercules and Xena referable not wanting to sully my foolish childhood memories, and as campy as that was, I'm honestly aghast it doesn't look worse for what it was in that era)

However, I have to sorely dissent on Rogue One's heart. That moving picture had ambience, just information technology's alone populated by hollow shallow characters. The only one with any personality, the only one I felt ANYTHING about the death of, was K2. Despite this, he feels completely inapposite, his comedic elements are severely jarring, like a parody got spliced in. They are the only enjoyable aspects of the movie, but how badly the tone of those scenes mix with the rest of the film greatly extract me out of the movie and pass wate me face how lifeless a floor the chief plot and cast are.

Orson Krennic was a good character

But that's because Ben Mendelsohn delivered a great performance not because the character was written well imo

Michael Wade
  • #46,369
I will, and have, capitulated that the small creatives connected Star Wars oft have finished of import work. When they aren't hampered past exceptional ideas from the director, like in the Last Jedi Cassino, I think they produce great sets, props, and costumes.
(Too, I've avoided revisiting Heracles and Xena due to not inadequate to asperse my fond childhood memories, and as campy as that was, I'm honestly shocked it doesn't look worse for what it was in that era)

However, I have to painfully disagree on Rogue Ace's heart. That movie had atmosphere, but it's entirely populated by core out shelfy characters. The lonesome one with any personality, the only one I felt ANYTHING some the death of, was K2. Contempt this, he feels completely dead of place, his comedic elements are sternly jarring, like a put-o got spliced in. They are the only pleasurable aspects of the movie, but how poorly the intone of those scenes shuffle with the rest of the motion picture greatly pull Maine down of the movie and make me face how lifeless a story the briny plot and cast are.

The imperial defector was pretty throw away but I likable what I saw with everyone else.

The establishing shot for Andor was pretty great. I do similar the idea of him being this unpitying black Ops man for the Rebels and Id plausibly enjoy his show if its more like this.

Chirrut was great. and I say this as someone who's ne'er seen IP man. IT was a sport little game to try on and pattern out what his deal was as the movie was going on. I similar how it shows a more realistic view what a skilled effect sensitive could set without training.


I like how Blaze is an asian variant of the TF2 heavy weapons guy.

Jyn is entirely defined past being Felicia Jones, but I like her so she gets a pass.


I like how Krennic an intelligent officer, but he's too self absorbed to be overbold in his actions.
The Gangster Computer
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X is pretty conscious of Virtuoso Wars as most of the media they consoom they want to cue them of 80s Star Wars or comics. I call back my dad speaking about how my generation does not have proper movies years ago. Helium talked about how Star Wars gave his generation a villain in Darth Vader, and how nothing nowadays does that (I would and did claim Joker as likely being Z's villain, merely atomic number 2 disagrees). I intend he also wondered wherefore in that location was no Han Solos any longer as that was his preferent character.
Sounds about right, much comparable virtually of X'ers. Its less about really enjoying the property and its content and more about how the brand name alone someway overrode memories and feelings of youth, hence the curious obsession with how equal things they preceptor't understand from said brand inspires nostalgia. Or why they got unnecessarily justificative over the OT because of that nostalgia. And later on those feelings they had for the OT transferred over to Walt Disney because TFA successful them feel like they were 8 years old over again, rather than because they understood or enjoyed the actual content of the story. And for the, the Y's and Z's, it was because it reminded them of their parents, the child years their parents shoved the OT in their faces, or their kid days when they went to see the prequels. Its mostly Intropin hits.
You are also right just about them acceptive anything. I recollect an even bigger point is how they switch in response to new management. I believe my dad used to champion the prequels, but subsequently Disney, helium says they were awful and Disney saved Star Wars. It is weird how things change, though I guess I grew more of an appreciation for the prequel's creativity in response to Disney, so who knows?
Yeah, since Disney made them palpate young again, they sucked them off until TLJ came along which made them feel divided, but those like Doomcock and HelloGreedo continued to persist loyal because the brand name solo and the nostalgia it inspires is enough to get the dopamine Beaver State endorphin bump off they sol hunger. So in the case of those like Doomcock, they'll hold up connected hating but still buying because they love the brand name alone and the nostalgia hits, non the calm; much like how HelloGreedo and other hypocrites like him hated anything outside of the OT, but they continued buying whatever inexperient shit that came out ascribable steel and nostalgia addiction, like a hate-fueled rush, hence why OT purists despite hating anything from inaccurate the OT unremarkably still own a lot from outside it and know a great deal active the setting or leastwise the most superficial elements (and if information technology wasn't that, it was normally reading uncited trash like wookieepedo to stay sophisticated if they couldn't afford to consoom or their parents didn't want to buy them more stuff). The primary difference is now they can't consoom while hating equivalent they did during the 2000s because at once being a mavin wars critic is seen as being the unchanged as a sexist, antiblack, queerphobe, transphobe or whatever unusual buzzworld gets thrown and twisted in your cosmopolitan direction, which is what leads to so many indecisive fence-sitting faggots like SW Theory and Eckhartz Ladder who want to criticize but are excessively scared too because they don't want to be labeled toxic or racist or whatever former lame insult would ruin their reputation. Hence why everyone was and still is then eager to trash the prequels and anything that came before and still can with zip repercussions because George is a sensed antiblack, but are too chickenshit to say anything about Disney even at its inferior because they don't want to be labeled Trump Supporters operating theatre bigots. Even the only the great unwashe willing to criticize Disney or both eras of Star Wars on a regular basis can only be recovered here, and occasionally on faceless imageboards and maybe youtube. Reddit used to have some but they all eventually get banned from southwest subreddits or the subreddits successful for criticism finished up getting taken over aside troon jannies. Another issue would glucinium the prequel kiddies who grew up with Filoni Wars World Health Organization will also represent Walt Disney to death because TCW was their exposure to Superstar Wars as tots, that and Ahsoka (the obnoxious Orange River middle kid) was also their first boner, and because Disney panders to their nostalgia with stuff suchlike Bad Batch and Mando season 2, they drool over the nostalgia like their fathers in front them rather than the actual content.

Non to change the issue, but Critical Drinker ready-made a pretty good follow-up of Intercellular substance

Circumcision Resurrection that points out how its shortcomings are like those of other forced and spare sequels these days, much like those of Disney Wars.
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So what you are saying is what fagged on screen did not twin your headcanon?
The Clone Wars was never in truth explained along riddle and was a unwanted line of products.
Directly, I'm for certain Lucas had a concept of what they were and whatever very early EU materials went into explaining more details about information technology (I haven't read A New Hope's novelization in years to confirm if any discussion of the Clone Wars was given there).
But, like many pre-1999 Europium materials and early Lucas concepts, they were retconed when the Prequels were made.
IT's not suchlike I don't sympathize with you.

The line is that Vader "helped the Empire Run Down and destroy the Jedi knights", which I figured was a odd event. This combined with the fact zero unmatched seemed to recognize Obeah for a Jedi made me repute a 'Knights of the Round Hold over' sort of organization even a inexperienced tyke could logical system out that they were probably a road block to the emperor gaining power.
People remote of the monarchy navy seemed to take a plus view of the Jedi & the Force; something I wouldn't think would happen after the Jedi organism branded traitors.

And the clone wars was a throw-away reference sure, only goddamn if its not an evocative one.

Movie canon always override EU canon as Ben mentioned to Luke, Vader and the Conglomerate afraid the Jedi down in the years after the Clone Wars.

That bar owner where Obi-Wan slice and dice those two guys was extremely quick to call up in the local sandtroopers on him. It can be safely put on Obeah-Wan kept it hidden from everyone WHO did not involve to know who he was for the bypast 20 of thusly years.


No mention of years, just that Vader helped the Empire hunt down and destroy them; tbf he doesn't NOT say years. And the Bar proprietor didn't call the troopers, the gas-mask alien did.
The Mandolorian wasn't good, it's passing lazily written, reminding me of the lazy written syndicated TV shows of the 90's like Hercules and Xena or Mutant X. It's shallow popcorn action that feels the likes of it's inscribed from scene to scene.

It's mediocre, and it leastways feels like it isn't trying to accentuate IT's activist disrespect for the source material and fan base. Star Wars has sunken so under the Mouse that a benignant product that isn't an attack happening the fans is considered a stand verboten product.

I do think it's better than Rogue One that as wel gets an unwarranted pass in my eyes. Mando is dumb fun if you don't think about it, Knave One is just dumb.


When I watched Rogue Ace I guess I saw the potential. The battle for Scariff was pretty rocking( and I think would have made a pretty awesome motion ride if anyone at disney was remotely competent.) Vader existence Vader, Dapsang-SO, etc and they completed their rip off of Rebel First light by killing everyone.
But you're solidly letter-perfect that the majority of the film, and the general assumption, is dumb.
But it was so close to greatness ace can without reasoning pretend that if Disney hadn't fucked with the movie, maybe it would have changed the sequels' flight and TLJ wouldn't have been shit.

tl;dr Rogue 1 was a two hour one-shot. Mando is 16 hours spread complete ii years. Rogue Indefinite predated TLJ so when people watched IT the complete death of lead wars hadn't happened yet, there was still hope and Rogue One fed into that go for. Mando berth-unstylish Plan IX, there's no justify for warm all but Walt Disney's SW content.

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Sex Cannon Lupa
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Speaking of Rogue One, what happened to it stupid Andor series they've been functional on since forever? Did they finally pull in nobody likes the character and mothball it?
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Rogue One was hampered by non-hold bac fuckery. I would love to have seen the 'gritty war movie' version that was initialy drafted.
Basic Blonde Boy
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Sounds about word-perfect, much like most of X'ers. Its less about actually enjoying the property and its depicted object and more than active how the brand name alone somehow overrode memories and feelings of youth, thence the rummy fixation with how even things they Don River't translate from said brand inspires nostalgia.
Me and my dad usually have rattling conflicting views on things probably imputable this reasoning. He was a big fan of Star Wars throughout childhood and also study a great deal of Marvel. While he is non a consoomer stereotype, no Funko collections yet, atomic number 2 definitely holds everything Disney does with these brands in high regard and dislikes the fans that go against IT. He is definitely unmatched of those types that speaks about how the pre-Disney stuff is worsened than what we have now, be information technology the prequels for Star Wars, or his hatred for Toby Maguire Spider-Man and his inaccurate portrayal of character when compared to The Netherlands.

A quote I somewhat remember from him was when he spoke about Deadpool. Now, he has never seen or heard of Deadpool prior to the 2022 movie, but atomic number 2 loved it. Helium claimed that Ryan Reynolds really spoke to 80's babies Oregon something, like the film was successful for his generation. It is reasonable incomparable of those very odd points relating haphazard capeshit to being with his gen.

I believe a lot of Xers are bad nostalgia knack in general. The reasoning, if I had to guess, is just a wanting to be support in the good ol years. I think we omit to mention that their gen was brought up inside the best period of time ever, freshman 20 years or so in a palmy economy, only to past have it all break up down post-9/11. Now they are in a weird spot where they are successful unlike the millennial given the overtime of a good maturity, but also swallow a hellish world around them. They are both in and out of melodic phras with the world, making them quite intriguing in the grand schema of things.

The main difference is now they can't consoom while hating like they did during the 2000s because directly organism a star wars critic is seen arsenic being the same American Samoa a sexist, racist, queerphobe, transphobe Oregon whatever other buzzworld gets thrown in your generalized direction
I would agree, but most Xers seem completely out of the loop on the culture war. They only use FaceBook, so this infighting is not seen by them.
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Kyle Avgvstvs, Antifvs Maximvs. AVE KYLE
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Rogue One was hampered by non-stop fuckery. I would love to have seen the 'gamy war pic' version that was initialy drafted.
We kinda got that in the last battle but they had to make it all glass-like and bright and admit a shiny and bright space battle too because reasons I guess

Gib me the wholly ground attack on the Imperial comms center along Toprawa to transport the plans to the Tantive IV as it passed through the arrangement we got in the EU (with Han dynasty Unaccompanied's first real get laid commanding the rebels!), that was a gritty combat altho we just got a glimpse of it

The Valeyard
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Speaking of Rogue One, what happened to it stupid Andor series they've been working on since evermor? Did they finally realize cipher likes the shit and mothball it?
Production on Andor was delayed because of the pandemic, but its tranquilize coming. Filming wrapped September 2022 and the serial publication is expected to come out middle-to-late 2022.
Drag-on Knight 91873
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Cassian Andor is a weird character to Maine. On report, he's got the elements needed to make up a jumper cable character such as being freehanded and a secret factor. In practice, he ends aweigh sidelined so hard that thither's no actual matter to in the character and all attempts to create buzz with him fail utterly.
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Cassian Andor is a weird character to ME. On paper, he's got the elements needed to be a star character so much A being handsome and a intelligence officer. In practice, he ends up sidelined then hard that there's no actual interest in the character and all attempts to make over buzz with him fail utterly.
Helium wasn't female.
PseudoScrooge
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Look back I completely get where you are coming from. But Rey was so talk shit she makes Ahoka and by extension Filoni search beatific.

Another thing that needs to be said, in sexual relation to your comment, and I utter for lots of folks when I say this: the main problem with orange waifu at the conclusion of the day boils down to the fact that she had the opportunity for a meaningful, impactful, hell even out properly-written demise that meant something, and Furloni could not fucking stand it, and literally fabricated SW time travel to bring her back, break the entire SW universe into a billion pieces, which he so shoved into his ass.

I put on't say this to pick a fight, nor to inculpate that Rebels was any good. It to a fault had the opportunity for greatness (or a decently lay out of relevancy), and born the orb Unenviable, devolving into Furloni wankery.

The Ugly One
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This is what I've been locution in other parts. The main affair that differs disney crap from the prequels is that the prequels for all the hate they got from critics, were still incredibly popular with kids, and the merchandise produced for them were like magnets for tots (as well as the adult consoomers of past times). All that plastic sold the likes of hotcakes and kids were crazy for them, which was were the real money was at. It also helped that there were loads of good video games coming out too. And a successful cartoon series that also had sold out toys that are still valuable today.

In counterpoint, Disney's movies and shows have zipp appeal for kids. In that location's nothing mirthful, eyecatching or new for them to latch onto, just a lot of nostalgia wank for boomers, karens and Filoni zoomers, and the usual Glycine ma chugging Disneyphiles who volition deplete whatever comes out regardless if its good, so their opinion is worthless. But for kids? Nothing. Cypher in Walter Elias Disney's sequels and shows resonates with kids. The military action is dull, the characters are dull, and the merch that was produced for it was abysmal and the toys nonmoving fill dormie landfills and warehouses while the only thing that really sold for kids were Emo Ren and Mando masks, Baby Yoda toys and initially those gay crossguard lightsabers. And true the Baby Yoda toys are mostly popular with lonely Karens and your average obsessive accumulator and the mando masks ended up getting overshadowed by Boba. And different the prequels, they only had two mature games released during their decade of ownership, one of which was a PR disaster.

And the lowest part of it is that the only ones WHO are really buying Disney shit in bulk and keeping their merch lines afloat are the nerdy lore spergs and the consoomer accumulator fags. No of Disney's gay new books set in their new epoch sell, with the only shit that does sell are toys, books and comics kick in the pre-Disney era, so the lore spergs are the ones that are still supplying Disney with money on a even basis despite their expected dissatisfaction with Disney. And its also these aforementioned spergs (especially Doomcock) WHO are still shilling out for the Disney+ shows because they've deluded themselves into thinking that Dave Filoni is playacting a 5D chess gayops to fix the Starring Warsverse stake to how it was during the pre-Disney era despite that time and time again he keeps proving them nonfunctional. But they'll continue to puff Doomcock-brand hopium and think that in that respect's a secret war going onto save the "spirit of Star Wars".

Its coping of the lamest kind:
"I founded Disney, gave them all my money, things aren't fixed withal and they're still qualification money?! How could this be occurrence?!"
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This gets even more embarrassing when these Lapp fuckers believe that taking out a 10k loan to remain at Walt Disney's godawful and overpriced SW hotel is the only way to keep the franchise alive because if they think that if they pass all their life story savings on this hotel straight off, that things volition improve, and if they don't go then Disney volition lock by the franchise in the Disney Vault forever. That's the level of faggotry we find ourselves in.

Likewise if you want more or less skilful example of consoomerist lore spergs, expect no further than Jedi Council Forums and SpaceBattles. They played out years dedicating themselves to buying every new template and merch LFL had been pumping come out since the 90s, non because they actually gave a damn more or less the setting or actually took percentage in games operating theater rpgs with friends, or played with their toys as kids, or even genuinely enjoyed the stories themselves, it was just a twisted obsession with owning as far as possible then finding ways to brag about their consumed goods; and when Disney took over, they jubilantly disowned what came before with extreme prejudice (while secretly buying reprints of the old) and spent every waking moment buying everything (((The Mouse))) ready-made in triplicate for complex quantity bragging rights and defending it as more as possible so they can never run dry connected their source of nutrition.


Nerds exaggerate their own importance to Star Wars relevant of completely reversing the causality. Mavin Wars wasn't in because of autistic attention to detail in the Protracted Universe that won nerd approval. The European Economic Community didn't eve exist when the OT was putt tens of millions of butts in seats. It's the other way around. Tens of millions of multitude saw and loved the movies, and a tiny percentage of them became obsessed and demanded ever-new ways to spend money connected Star Wars.

If you don't get that avalanche of regular people, the commercialise for the nerd glut will die by attrition. Disney has completely ruined the Star Wars Information processing. Gen X & Millennials are a ways away from eager even, so they'll still milk us for some cash, but they're running out of prison term to make any kids give a crap.

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